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How to know Krsna.

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Below is a wonderful lecture (in part) given by Srila Prabhupada about HOW to know Krsna, not sentimentally but in TRUTH.
 

 
 
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.... In the Bhagavad-gita it is said, janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah.
If you simply know Krsna, what is Krsna, why does He come, why He works like ordinary
man--janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah--
in truth, in actual
fact. Not that "Oh, Krsna was born in Mathura, and then He was taken
to Vrndavana." This is also knowing. But still, you know what is
Krsna.

                                           manusyanam sahasresu
                                            kascid yatati siddhaye
                                            yatatam api siddhanam
                                           kascin mam vetti tattvatah

It is very difficult to understand Krsna tattvatah, not superficially,
but in fact.
So Krsna says, janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah.
So one who understands Krsna in truth, he becomes free. Tyaktva deham
punar janma naiti mam eti kaunteya. These things are there. So why
don't you be serious to study Krsna, to understand Krsna?
But to understand Krsna it will require Krsna's mercy. Without
Krsna's mercy... So how you get Krsna's mercy?
 
                                         tesam satata-yuktanam
                                        bhajatam priti-purvakam
                                      dadami buddhi-yogam tam
                                           yena mam upayanti te
 
One can understand Krsna by being constantly engaged in His service.
Tesam satata-yuktanam. Not that weekly once go to the church. No.
Twenty-four hours, satata-yuktanam, engaged in Krsna's service
. That
is Krsna consciousness movement. We are teaching people how to become
twenty-four hours engaged in Krsna's service. This is our business.
We
don't allow karma, jnana, yoga. No.
Simply. And that is krsna-bhakti.
Jnana-karmady-anavrtam. There is no question of jnana and karma. That
is not pure bhakti. Pure bhakti means anyabhilasita-sunyam
jnana-karmady-anavrtam, anukulyena krsnanusilanam, simply to serve
Krsna favorably, as Krsna becomes pleased. This is bhakti. This is
pure devotion.

   So this Krsna consciousness movement, therefore, teaching pure
devotional service to Krsna.
That will solve all problems. So how one
can come to that stage?
That is being explained in this portion of the
Bhagavata, that srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah.
Just hear. You haven't got to do anything more. Just hear about Krsna.
Srnvatam sva-kathah... Then everything will be cleared, gradually.
This is our purpose. This center is giving chance that you come here
and hear about... We, we don't make any flattery to satisfy the whims
of the ordinary... We speak from Srimad-Bhagavatam, we speak from
Bhagavad-gita, and present them as it is, without any adulteration.
This is our position.
If you like, then you make progress. If you
don't like, that is your option. But we cannot make any compromise. We
must present the sastra as it is.

 

    And where is the difficulty? Everything is explained here. Nityam
bhagavata-sevaya.

 

You have to attend Bhagavata class and serve the
bhagavata person nityam, daily. If you cannot, that is a different
thing. But this is the process
. Nityam bhagavata-sevaya. Nasta-prayesu
abhadresu. This conclusion comes when one is partially advanced.
Nasta-prayesu. Not fully. Then it will come. He'll be ready to serve
Bhagavatam--Bhagavata, he person bhagavata and the book Bhagavata.
Nityam bhagavata-sevaya, bhagavaty uttama-sloke bhaktir bhavati
naisthiki. Nistha, I have explained already yesterday.
Tada, at that
time, when you are fixed up,
"Now I shall devote my life in Krsna
consciousness," when you come to this conclusion... Nityam. That will
come. Nityam bhagavata-sevaya, bhaktir bhavati naisthiki. Not
deviated. But...
Not this worship, that worship, this worship, this
worship... No
. Kamais tais tair hrta-jnana yajante anya-devatah.....
Naisthiki, without any disturbance. Tada, at that time. Tada... What
is the result? Rajas-tamo-bhavah... There are three bhavas:
rajo-guna-bhava, tamo-guna-bhava and sattva-guna-bhava.
So as soon as
you come to the platform of devotional service, the two inferior
qualities, namely rajo-guna and tamo-guna, they become finished.

Simply sattva-guna remains. Because there are three gunas. If two
gunas are finished, no more useful, then the other one is there.
Tada
rajas-tamo-bhavah
. What are the symptoms of rajas-tamo-bhavah? Now,
kama and lobha.
Those who are infected with this rajas-tamo-bhavah,
they are very lusty, greedy, lobhi. They are not satisfied. The modern
civilization is based on rajas-tamo-bhavah. Nobody is satisfied.
Everyone is greedy. And lusty. Kama-lobhadayas ca ye. Kama. So long
you are lusty, so long you are greedy, there is no question of
devotional service
. There is no question of advancement to spiritual
life. So therefore you have (to) come to the platform of sattva-guna,
where simply knowledge... There is no other thing, ignorance or
greediness, only knowledge.

 

 


   So at that time, it is said, ceta etair anaviddham. Because
everything is within the heart. We become greedy, we become lusty on
account of distortion of the heart disease, kama. Tada hrdi

lobha-kamau apahinoti(?). That is a heart disease. This kama and lobha
is a heart disease. Actually, you don't require this, but it is a kind
of disease. "More and more and more and more and more." Never
satisfied. So we have to cure this disease. And this process, simple
process, Caitanya Mahaprabhu has given: ceto-darpana-marjanam. To cure
the heart disease of lusty desires and greediness is chanting Hare
Krsna maha-mantra. Param vijayate sri-krsna-sankirtanam. These are the
shastric injunction, and spoken by personalities like Lord Caitanya
and other acaryas.
 
(I have below added here parts from another lecture  he gave later on)
 
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You have to still go further. Simply to understand that "I am
Brahman," "I have now realized myself as Brahman," that is not
perfection of knowledge. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma.
One who becomes
realized souls, self-realized, he becomes immediately perfectly
joyful
. Because our all lamentation is due to our material
identification. Socati kanksati.
We are simply lamenting for our loss,
and we are simply hankering for some gain. This is material
activities. Everyone is struggling to gain something which he does not
possess, and he's lamenting for something which he has lost. But when
he realizes himself that "I have nothing to gain and nothing to lose;
I have nothing to do with this material world," that is called
brahma-bhutah.
That is Brahman realization. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma
na socati na kanksati, samah sarvesu bhutesu
. At that time, he
realizes that all living entities, they are spirit soul, panditah
sama-darsinah.
That is equal vision--not the bodily vision. So long we
have got bodily vision, there cannot be any equality. That is not
possible.
When one sees only to the spiritual existence of a living
entity, there is question of seeing equally, equal vision, universal
brotherhood. That is possible. Not on the bodily platform. That is not
possible.
 
   So after acquiring this knowledge, the life of devotional service
begins
.
 
                                     brahma-bhutah prasannatma
                                            na socati na kanksati
                                        samah sarvesu bhutesu
                                   mad-bhaktim labhate param
 
That is required. And in that stage of devotional life, one can
understand what is Krsna
. Bhaktya mam abhijanati yavan yas casmi
tattvatah. That is tattvatah understanding. In another place it is
said, in the Bhagavad-gita, uh, Srimad-Bhagavatam: evam
prasanna-manaso bhagavad-bhakti-yogatah.
Unless one becomes jubilant,
joyful, by executing devotional service, he cannot understand what is
Krsna. It is not possible
. To understand superficially Krsna, that
"He..., He appeared in Mathura in His uncle's prison house...," that
is also nice. But one should try to understand Krsna in fact. That
fact can be revealed by devotional service. You cannot challenge
Krsna. Krsna will reveal. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam eva sphuraty
adah. If we become sevonmukha, if we try to serve Krsna....
 
(OK now back to the original lecture)

   So we have to follow. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. Don't follow
rascals and fools. Then it will be useless waste of time. Follow the
great acaryas
. Acaryavan puruso veda.
One who is acaryavan, who has
accepted acarya, he knows. Others, all are fools, rascals.
Acaryavan.
Acaryopasanam. In the Bhagavad-gita it is said, amanitvam adambhitvam
ahimsa ksantir arjavam, acaryopasanam. You have to first of all
worship the acarya. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet. Guru and
acarya, the same thing. So these are the process. Mahajano yena gatah.
You cannot manufacture your ways of thinking. What you are? You are
most insignificant living entity. And without following the acaryas,
without following the mahajanas, without following the sastras, how
you can teach?

    But people are doing that. Without being followed by the acarya,
without being followed by the sastras, they become guru, they become
swami, they become yogi. It is useless. You cannot get...

Here are the process, process is given: tada rajas-tamo-bhavah kama... Tada means
when you are fixed up in devotional service, then you can get out of
these infections.
These are infections. In... It is so dangerous
infection....If you infect some disease, you have to suffer. You cannot escape. You
infect today somehow or other. Not today, not tomorrow, but some day...
   You are under the complete subjugation of nature. Prakrteh
kriyamanani gunaih karmani sarvasah. These gunaih. The prakrti is
forcing you to work because you have infected a kind of guna. Karanam
guna-sango 'sya sad-asad-yoni-janmasu. Karanam. ....
 
   So we have to give up the association of rajo-guna and tamo-guna.
Then there is question of progress. Otherwise it is simply a bluff
.
Therefore in our society we say,
"Don't associate... Don't be infected
by these rajo-guna, tamo-guna." This meat-eating and illicit sex life
and drinking and gambling, they are rajo-guna, tamo-guna. Kama-lobha.

You see? There is a big fairground. Gambling, tamo-guna...
going there. Thousands and thousands of people are going there for
gambling. This is tamo-guna. Why? Lobha:
"I must get more money. I
must get more money." Lobha, kama. Kama-lobhadayah. So we have to get
out of all this entanglement. Then there is spiritual life. Otherwise
don't talk of spiritual life.

   So this is fact.
Tada. Tada means when you are fixed up in
devotional service. Tada, kama-lobhadayas ca ye. Tada
rajas-tamo-bhavah. We have to get rid of this rajo-guna and tamo-guna.

We have to be fixed up in sattva-guna, pure life.
Then sthitam sattve
prasidati. If you are situated in the sattva-guna, then you will be
peace of mind. And that is krsna-bhakta.
That is explained in the
Caitanya-caritamrta.
 
                             krsna-bhakta----niskama, ataeva 'santa'
                           bhukti-mukti-siddhi-kami----sakali 'asanta'
 
Krsna-bhakta, he does not desire anything. Krsna-bhakta says, "I don't
mind I am born lowborn." No, because he'll chant Hare Krsna.
Lowborn
or highborn, he has nothing to do. If one is engaged in devotional
service, it doesn't matter whether he's lowborn and highborn. As soon
as he takes to devotional service, he becomes above lowborn and
highborn. Sa gunan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate. He's in the
Brahman platform
.

  
So in this way, as they are stated in the sastra, if you follow,
then it is step by step. First beginning is srnvatam sva-kathah
krsnah. Try to hear Krsna's message. That is Bhagavad-gita As It Is.
You hear it. You understand it. What is the difficulty
? Srnvatam
sva-kathah. Don't misinterpret. Hear it as it is. Krsna says, man-mana
bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru.
Hear it and execute it. Where
is the difficulty? But we shall not agree to, we shall not hear. We
shall not act according to the instruction given. And that is our
misfortune.
Caitanya Mahaprabhu therefore says, etadrsi tava krpa
bhagavan mamapi durdaivam idrsam ihajani nanuragah: "
You are so
merciful that in this age You have incarnated, You have descended in
Your name." Namnam akari bahudha nija-sarva-saktih. And in the name
there is all potencies. Parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate. There are
multipotencies of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. All the
potencies are there in the holy name of the Lord
. Namnam akari bahudha
nija-sarva-saktis tatrarpita niyamitah smarane na kalah.
Desa-kala-patra. ...   So this opportunity is there. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, etadrsi
tava krpa: "My Lord, You have..., You are so kind, You have given us
this chance." Durdaivam idrsam ihajani nanuragah. "But I am so
unfortunate, I have no attraction for this chanting Hare Krsna." This
is our position.
So if you are serious about peace of mind, if you are
serious about advancing in spiritual culture, spiritual life, then you
must follow what is there in the sastra and spoken by Krsna Himself,
spoken by Lord Caitanya Himself. Then life is successful.

   Thank you very much. (end)
 
 
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CONCLUSIONS--
This is a very nice lecture by Srila Prabhupada because he clearly outlines the process to KNOW Krsna.
In Bg Krsna tells us if we know about His appearance and activities we wont take birth here again.
Some devotees think "Yes Yes I Know Krsna", but here is the method given by the Acaryas.
1) It is to first hear the message of Krsna as given in Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam DAILY and to Daily serve the MahaBhagavata -and to hear this message, AS IT IS.
2) Tada Rajas tamo bhava-by hearing this sastric message the modes of passion and ignorance will be destroyed almost to nil, the mode of goodness will remain, and we will become happy or joyful. This state of happiness is not possible without following this process..."Nasta prayesv abhadresu.." These three side by side  verses from Srimad Bhagavatam 1.2.17,18,19) are extremely important.
3) One can understand Krsna only by constant engagement in His service.
4) Unless one comes  to the Brahma Bhuta platform he cannot understand Krsna.When one become joyful and jubilant by this platform of devotional service, then bhakti begins and one can understand Krsna (somewhat) in truth-but not before this stage is attained.
5) To attain this state of transcendental blissfulness one must follow the real Acaryas, not fools or rascals.
6) Tada rajas tamo bhava--Tada means at THAT time one can understand-when ? When rajas and tamas are gone THEN one can begin to understand what and who this person Krsna is in truth. Brahma bhuta platform means first of all WE understand ourselves as soul, then understanding Krsna as Suprme Soul comes later.
7) Simply chant Hare Krsna maha mantra daily, following the instructions of a bona fide Acarya and all success will come.
 
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
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