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Bhagavad-gita 2.62-67 – Los Angeles, Dec 19 1968

Prabhupada: It is learned from Vedic literature that… Of course, they are showing us, Lord Shiva, Lord Brahma. They were also sometimes attracted by sense objects. Just like Lord Brahma, his daughter Sarasvati… Sarasvati is considered to be the most perfect form of beauty, womanly beauty, Sarasvati. So Lord Brahma became enchanted by the beauty of his daughter just to show us the example that even personalities like Lord Brahma sometimes become enchanted.

This maya is so strong. He forgot that "She's my daughter." Then to penance this, Brahma had to quit the body. These stories are there in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. Similarly, Lord Shiva also, when Krishna appeared before him in Mohini-murti… Mohini means the most enchanting, beautiful womanly form. Lord Shiva also became mad after Her. So wherever She was going, Lord Shiva was chasing. And it is stated that while chasing Mohini-murti, Lord Shiva had discharges. So these examples are there. As it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, daivi hy esha guṇamayi mama maya duratyaya [Bg. 7.14]. The whole material energy is enchanting every one of us by this beauty, the womanly beauty. Actually, there is no beauty. It is illusion. Shankaracharya says that "You are after this beauty, but have you analyzed this beauty? What is the beauty?" Etad rakta-mamsha-vikaram. It is just like our student(s) Govinda dasi and Nara-narayana molding plaster of paris. At this time, there is no attraction. But this plaster of paris when it will be nicely painted, it will be so attractive. Similarly, this body is combination of blood and muscles and veins. If you cut the upper portion of your body, as soon as you see inside, it is all obnoxious horrible things. But outwardly so painted by the illusory color of maya, oh, it looks very attractive. And that is attracting our senses. This is the cause of our bondage.

We are being bound up by some false illusory beauty of this world. Mirage. The exact example is the mirage. What is mirage? Reflection of the sunlight on the desert appears like water. Where is water there? There is no water. The animal, thirsty animal, is after the mirage. "Oh, here is water. I'll be satisfied." Similarly we are hankering after, running after the mirage. There is no peace, there is no happiness. Therefore we have to divert our attention back to Godhead. Don't run after this mirage. Just turn back to Godhead, back to Krishna. That is our propaganda. Don't divert your… Don't engage your senses in the illusory material beauty. Just apply your senses to Krishna, the real beautiful. That is Krishna consciousness. Go on.

Tamala  Krishna: "Lord Shiva once was in deep meditation, but when the beautiful maiden Parvati agitated him for sense pleasure, he agreed to the proposal and as a result Karttikeya  was born."

Prabhupada: Oh, here is Karttikeya  present. (laughter) Yes. Hare Krishna. Go on. (laughter)

Tamala  Krishna: "When Haridasa Thakura was a young devotee of the Lord he was similarly allured by the incarnation of Mayadevi."

Prabhupada: Now here is the difference. Lord Shiva, he is the greatest of the demigods. He was also allured by Parvati, and as a result of that attraction, this boy Karttikeya  was born. That was the, what is called, conspiracy of the demigods, that unless one son is born out of the semina of Lord Shiva, it is impossible to conquer the demons. So Karttikeya  is considered the commander in chief of the demigods. But here, another example. Haridasa Thakura. Haridasa Thakura was young boy, about twenty, twenty-four years old, and he was chanting Hare Krishna, and the landlord in that village, he was very much envious of Haridasa Thakura. He conspired and engaged one prostitute to defy him. So the prostitute agreed and at dead of night, with very beautiful dress and she was young, and tried to captivate Haridasa Thakura. But he was not captivated. That is the difference.

A Krishna conscious person, even an ordinary person, not in the level of Lord Shiva or Lord Brahma, he's never conquered by maya. But one who is not fully in Krishna consciousness, either he may be Lord Shiva or Lord Brahma, he'll be conquered by maya, what to speak of others. This is the position. Go on. "When Haridasa Thakura was a young devotee of the Lord…"

Tamala  Krishna: "…he was similarly allured by the incarnation of Mayadevi, but Haridasa easily passed the test because of his unalloyed devotion to Lord Krishna. A sincere devotee of the Lord learns to hate all material sense enjoyment due to his higher taste for spiritual enjoyment in the association of the Lord. That is the secret of success."

Prabhupada: Param drshtva nivartate [Bg. 9.59]. Param, if you get better thing, you give up inferior quality thing. That is our nature. Just like our students, American students, they were all accustomed to meat-eating. But now another student, she is preparing the sweetballs, ISKCON balls, and they are forgetting meat-eating. They do not like any more meat-eating. They have got better engagement, sweetballs. (laughter) Similarly, that is the way. When you get better engagement… We are hankering after pleasure. Anandamayo bhyasat (Vedanta-sutra 1.1.12). Every living entity is seeking after pleasure. That is his nature. You cannot stop. If you stop… Just like a child is seeking after some enjoyment, he's breaking something, enjoyment. But he does not, that… He is breaking, but he's simply enjoying that breaking.

Similarly, we do not know what is enjoyment in this material concept of life. We are breaking and building. In your country I have seen in several places. Nice building is dismantled, and again, in that very place, another building is raised. You see? Breaking and building. Breaking and… "Oh, this building is old. Break it." The same childish play. You see? Simply wasting engagement, valuable time of this human form. Breaking and building, breaking and building. "This motorcar is useless. Another '69 model." And thousands of people are engaged in that '69 model. You see? What is that? In essence, the breaking and building, breaking and building. Just like the child. You see? So unless one has got better engagement, Krishna consciousness, surely they will be engaged in this breaking and building, breaking and building. Childish engagement. Param drshtva nivartate [Bg. 9.59]. And so far our students of Krishna consciousness, they are trying to get two hours more than twenty-four hours. They have got so much, so many engagements.


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