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Horoscope of Late HH Tamal Krishna Goswami
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   06/06/2010 20:55 #328
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 Re:Horoscope of Late HH Tamal Krishna Goswami
SRILA PRABHUPADA PREDICTS DISORDER AFTER HIS DEPARTURE AND GIVES US GUIDANCE ON HOW TO TRY RELIEVE THE SITUATION.

There has been much discussion amongst devotees, on what is the best course of action for Krishna Consciousness Movement in Srila Prabhupada’s physical absence.

Herebelow are compilation of quotes by His Divine Grace Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prahupada, our initiating Spiritual Master, where he gives practical instructions on how to try relieve the present disorder.

Whenever an Acarya comes, following the superior orders of the Supreme Personality of Godhead or His Representative, he establishes the principles of religion, as enunciated in Bhagavad-Gita.

Religion means abiding by the orders of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Religious principles begin from the time one surrenders to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. It is the Acarya’s duty to spread a bona fide religious system and induce everyone to bow down before the Supreme Lord. One executes the religious principles by rendering devotional service, specifically the nine items like hearing, chanting and remembering.

Unfortunately, when the Acarya disappears, rogues and nondevotees take advantage and immediately begin to introduce unauthorized principles in the name of so-called svamis, yogis, philanthropists, welfare workers and so on …….

The Acarya, the authorized representative of the Supreme Lord, establishes these principles, but when he disappears, things once again become disordered. The perfect disciples of the Acarya try to relieve the situation by sincerely following the instructions of the spiritual master……..

Similarly, a devoted disciple of the spiritual master would rather die with the spiritual master than fail to execute the spiritual master’s mission. As the Supreme personality of Godhead comes down upon this earth to re-establish the principles of religion, so His representative, the spiritual master, also comes to re-establish religious principles.

It is the duty of the disciples to take charge of the mission of the spiritual master and execute it properly. Otherwise the disciple should decide to die along with the spiritual master. In other words, to execute the will of the spiritual master, the disciple should be prepared to lay down his life and abandon all personal consideration ………. When one becomes serious to follow the mission of the spiritual master, his resolution is tantamount to seeing the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

As explained before, this means meeting the Supreme Personality of Godhead in the instruction of the spiritual master. This technically called VANI-SEVA. Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura states in his Bhagavad-gita commentary on the verse vyavasayatmika buddhir ekeha kuru-nandana (Bg.2.41) that one should serve the words of the spiritual master.

The disciple must stick to whatever the spiritual master orders. Simply by following on that line, one sees the Supreme Personality of Godhead. (S.B. 4.28.48.50.51 )

What is your order also, that everyone, coming together should merge in your message and preach it to the world.

If everyone just initiates then there will only be a contradictory result. As long as this goes on, there will only be failure.

O shame ! My dear brothers, aren’t you embarrassed ? In the manner of businessmen you increase your disciples.

Now it is up to the Readers and the Followers of Srila Prabhupada to see through the instructions of Srila Prabhupada whether we are following the order of Srila Prabhupada or not.

Jagat Guru Srila Prabhupada Ki Jaya.
 
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What is your order also, that everyone, coming together should merge in your message and preach it to the world.
Srila Prabhupada's message is the same as that of Lord Caitanya: to please chant Hare Krsna and tell everyone you meet to do the same.

If everyone just initiates then there will only be a contradictory result. As long as this goes on, there will only be failure.
That is why we have got ONE Initiating Spiritual Master: HDG AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.

O shame ! My dear brothers, aren’t you embarrassed ? In the manner of businessmen you increase your disciples.
Is this a quote or your own text, Amar Puri prabhu?
It is ever so true. The past 32 years this Guru Business has been going on. And what has it factually brought...even the disciples so gained are not maintained, because most of those initiating could not even follow the basi principles of Krsna consciousness.

Now it is up to the Readers and the Followers of Srila Prabhupada to see through the instructions of Srila Prabhupada whether we are following the order of Srila Prabhupada or not.

ISKCON has failed to follow Srila Prabhupada's order re continuation of Initiations in ISKCON from the day His Divine Grace closed his vapu lila and entered Samadhi. They declared him dead and gone and thus in need of being replaced...
Strenghtened in their conviction that they were now supposed to be Guru's some of the first eleven appointed ritviks ran to Sridhar Maharaja asking for advice - telling him that Srila Prabhupada had appointed them to be guru. There the first misleading started...deliberately and pre-meditated? Or out of enthusiasm and inability to grasp the real instruction?

And hence the zonal acharya system came into being, to be overthrown by GBC itself and replaced by the multiple acharya succession system of MASS...

Never before in the history of Iskcon though has there been so much research into and discussions going on about the factual order of Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada never appointed anyone to replace him as The Guru of ISKCON. He simply authorised ritviks to continue to act on his behalf and initiate devotees on his behalf and carry on with his mission on his behalf.

But unfortunately these once, perhpaps so obedient, faithful disciples are turning round and saying: "that is not good enough for us Srila Prahbupada. If that is all you ever want us to do and take credit for then you cheated us. We have the right to succeed you as GURU'.

I simply cannot understand why there are so many seemingly advanced and older devotees there fighting tooth and nail to keep Srila Prabhupada out of the picture as the INITIATIOR GURU of ISKCON. Do you?
 
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 Re:Horoscope of Late HH Tamal Krishna Goswami
It is very simple to understand why because Jiva Atma wants to enjoy on the same platform of Shri Krishna or His Representative under the disguise of being equally good Spiritually, if not better, then the present authorized connection of the VANI of the Vapu in the disciplic succession. This is called free will of the Jiva in which Shri Krishna Himself will not interfere of the Iccha of the Jiva who is allowed to do as one pleases as per BG.

Regarding your other question below ;
O shame ! My dear brothers, aren’t you embarrassed ? In the manner of businessmen you increase your disciples.
Is this a quote or your own text, Amar Puri prabhu?

NO, THIS IS NOT MINE. EVERYTHING IS COMING FROM SRILA PRABHUPADA.
 
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Thanks for you reply.
Very clear.

So,SP said that about his godbrothers.
Where did you find it?

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I read it some where on the internet. I really do not recall where ?
 
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Five prayers glorifying special characteristics of Srila 108 Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Thakura. Presented on the commemoration of his appearance, by His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, at Radha Damodara temple, Vrindavana, India in 1961.



First Vasistya


1. On this day, O my master, I made a cry of grief; I was not able to tolerate the absence of my guru.

2. On this auspicious day I have come with this offering just to worship you, remembering your lotus feet.

3. Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's judgment is that renunciation is most important. Not only that, but such knowledge of renunciation must be delivered to every conditioned being.

4. The beginner in devotional service has no ability to solve this dilemma, but you are a maha-bhagavata, you have given us direction.

5. One bewildered by ignorance, what kind of renunciate can he be? He will only be a "phalgu-vairagi"; renouncing externally.

6. Renunciation is actually the result of real spiritual emotion. Without such feeling it is simply known as "show bottle".

7. But there is another "show bottle" for the purpose of preaching. That is the Lord's sannyasa by which the mayavadis are defeated.

8. Lord Chaitanya's philosophy is beyond Varnasrama; it is Bhagavata dharma, for putting an end to all cheating processes of religion.

9. Performing dry renunciation, there can be no real preaching. Therefore "yukta vairagya" is given as the highest essential understanding.

10. "That sannyasa which I have given you" is for preaching in devotion. The faithless sense enjoyers are unable to understand this.

Second Vasistya


11. Generally the sannyasis renounce everything and go and stay in the mountain caves, but you, o master, keep your sannyasis in mansions of marble.

12. To see a sense enjoyer is just like drinking poison, but you, o my master, go far and near, even abroad, to give them your darshan.

13. Mlecchas and Yavanas are forbidden to enter the Hindu temples, but you my Lord, make them chairmen and sit them in the assembly of devotees.

14. Hindus are not allowed to cross the ocean, but you send your devotees overseas to preach.

15. In the cities of Kali Yuga the instructions of the bona fide spiritual preceptors are forbidden. Still you remain there in any way possible.

16. The devotees want to hide in a secluded place to perform their bhajan. You, however, do not accept this in your judgment.

17. Whenever there is an increase in population, there in that place preaching work is to be found.

18. In London you want a student hostel. You explain that it must be very first-class.

19. In the land of barbarians a student hostel for preaching Hari-katha! Who can understand the significance of these things?

20. To resolve all the apparently contradictory statements is not the play of some incompetent fool.

21. If everyone simply sat down together and considered these things what nice preaching there could be.

22. What is your order also, that everyone, coming together, should merge in your message and preach it to the world.

23. If everyone just initiates then there will only be a contradictory result. As long as it goes on, there will be only failure.

24. Now even, my God brothers, you return here to the order of our master, and together we engage in his puja.

25. But simply a festival of flowers and fruits does not constitute worship. The one who serves the message of the guru really worships him.

26. The service of the message is the real meaning of the Vedas. Don't be proud, brothers, Come back to this.

27. Kalidas nag (a learned man who was defeated by Srila Saraswati Thakura and later became his disciple), that master said in public forum one day.

28. That Kali's mission was to kill the entire world while the essential meaning of Lord Chaitanya's message was kept locked up in a cage.

29. O shame! My dear brothers aren't you embarrassed? In the manner of businessmen you increase your disciples.

30. Our master said to preach. Let the neophytes stay in the temples and ring the bells.

Third Vasistya


31. All these things are not our spiritual master's preaching methods. These are all the things done by the caste Goswamis.

32. But just take a look at the terrible situation that has arisen. everyone has become a sense enjoyer and has given up preaching.

33. In the temples they have also begun to lock the doors. Preach this bhagavata dharma, don't hesitate.

34. Within this world there is another world, whose sound is the unequaled penetrating force.

35. The preaching that "the mullah [Muslim priest] only goes as far as the mosque and no further" should be put to an end today.

36. From the seas, across the earth, penetrate the universal shell, come together and preach this Krishna consciousness.

37. Then our master's service will be in proper order. Make you promise today, Give up all your politics and diplomacy.

38. Everyone come together on this very day and make your valued comment. The five of you get together and decide what should be done.

39. You have become renouncers, brothers, so renounce everything. But if you also renounce the order of the spiritual master, then what kind of renunciation is that?

40. The one who renounces the guru's order [guru tyagi] and the one who tries to enjoy the assets of his spiritual master [guru-bhoghi] are two kinds of useless persons. First become a servant of your spiritual master [guru-sevi] and then you will understand things clearly.


Fourth Vasistya

41. If there is only one Supreme Lord, then a true sadhu, if his faith increases, he gives up the desire for profit, distinction and adoration in the material world.

42. Your gold, brother, is the father of sense gratification. This meaningful statement was spoken by Srila Prabhupada himself.

43. Give up your wealth for preaching. Sit down together and make some special judgment.

44. The Supreme Lord Himself says that everything is Mine. Don't protest. Just unite and preach.

45. Srila Prabhupada gave this final message himself. Take great care to follow that completely in all respects.

46. Otherwise your sannyas will be wasted and useless. O saintly ones, be careful; afterwards you will regret.

47. So what is the difficulty for all of us to come together in this way and why do all these things even have to be said to you?

48. Give up your stubbornness, there is no time. Come all my brothers on this auspicious holy occasion.

Fifth Vasistya

49. When will that day come when there will be a temple established in every house in every corner of the world?

50. When the big court judge will be a Gaudiya Vaishnava with tilak beautifully decorating his forehead.

51. A Vaishnava winning votes will be elected president of the land and preaching will spread everywhere.

52. The demons simply plunder the Lord's wealth. The hapless populace cry "Hai Hai" in distress.

53. The demons want so many plans just to cheat the people. They see wheat flour at 32 rupees a mound.

54. Will opening a factory fill a hungry man's belly? Being oppressed by starvation they will eat grass and mango pits.

55. Wearing a two paisa string a man is called a brahmana. Wearing a saffron cloth he has become a sannyasi.

56. The householders beg from the sannyasis, and why not? The sannyasis have tens of millions of rupees in the bank.

57. As the days pass the influence of Kali Yuga increases and the poor are crying in distress.

58. Ten thousand cows are killed daily and the nations expert leaders are all eating untouchable foodstuffs.

59. People of muddy intelligence increase day by day. A man and his wife separate on a mere word.

60. Everyone has become a witch by the influence of this age. Everyone is unhappy due to the absence of the mercy of the Vaisnavas.

61 The Vaishnavas are famous as "para dukhi dukhi." This fame will increase as the preaching increases.

62. If eternally pure devotional service to Krishna is awakened in everyone, then Kali will flee, screaming of his own accord.

63. "Praninan upakaraya" do work for the benefit of all living beings. This is Mahaprabhu's teachings. This is the storehouse of happiness in this life and the next.

64. So much work has fallen into your hands, so gather together and do it.

65. Vasudeva Datta said to the Lord, paying his obeisances, save all the living beings in the material world.

66. Give all their sins and suffering to me, who am the lowest of all. In this way all the suffering and miseries of the fallen will end.

67. He was the best of Vaishnavas, para dukhi dukhi. He knows that there is not real happiness in gratifying the senses.

68. And what kind of mercy can the non-Vaishnavas give? They simply make offenses by their Daridra Naranyan philosophy.

69. The mercy of the Vaishnavas is scientific and authorized, without their mercy this world is simply insurmountable maya.

70. If there is a kingdom of Vishnu and Vaishnavas on the surface of the earth, then the world will be happy so say all the great sages and rishis.

71. Why is everyone crying for Ram-rajya? The only way it can be had is if there is a Vishnu centered kingdom.

72. Lord Krishna enthroned King Yuddhisthira; then the whole world was rich and fortunate due to the qualities of a Vaishnava.

73. The streams, rivers, trees and fields and mountains, all full of fruits and flowers. The milk laden cows were floating in abundant milk.

74. The bird, beasts and lower creatures were all non envious. Material life in the Vaishnava kingdom was regulated and perfect.

75. All immerse in bliss, sing the glories of Hari. The hearts of the Vaishnavas dance in ecstasy to see this.

76. The entire world is filled with the use of material objects, without a trace of devotion to the Lord.

77. Still they are searching after peace. Preach Krishna consciousness Fulfill their desires.

78. Today my brothers, get to this task. Save the battered souls by your preaching.

79 Srila Prabhupada, please be merciful today, This time have compassion. You are not a conditioned soul of this material world.

80. Whatever independence we have, let it be cast to the waters. The lowly Abhay offers this presentation today.

Vrindavana Radha Damodara.





His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada offered these prayers to his Guru Maharaja in 1961. Contained in these prayers are some of Srila Prabhupada's evaluations of the problems that developed after the departure of his guru [the history of the post-1936 Gaudiya Matha].


The Phalgun Krishna Pancami was presented as a Vyasapuja offering for Srila Prabhupada's 100th Centennial. It was offered by a small group of Srila Prabhupada's disciples at the Vancouver Temple on Thursday, September 5, 1996. Rocana dasa offered the introduction, then together with four other Srila Prabhupada disciples, -- Vyasapada dasa, Gaura Nitai dasa and his wife Lalagopala devi dasi, and Vijeta dasa -- they read the Phalgun Krishna Pancami. As the Fifth and final Vasistya was read by Gaura Nitai dasa, on the second to last verse:

79. Srila Prabhupada, please be merciful today, This time have compassion. You are not a conditioned soul of this material world.

...a booming peal of thunder rocked the devotees in the temple, bringing many of us to tears. It was as though Srila Pabhupada had stepped into our midst. With a deep breath, Gaurna Nitai then read the last verse:


80. Whatever independence we have, let it be cast to the waters. The lowly Abhay offers this presentation today.
Within seconds, this sentence was followed by a torrential downpour.

Bhaktivedanta Book Trust. HDG A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
 
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You are very welcome prabhu.
I like finding the sources of all that is being said or written.....
 
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56. The householders beg from the sannyasis, and why not? The sannyasis have tens of millions of rupees in the bank.

This is very true today...
My ex husband sold his musical equipment to BCS for us to be able to go to India.
And BCS with his Gold American Visa card was so mad with my ex-husband for not being clever enough to by-pass the custom tax levies by cheating!
 
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