Hare Krsna---Just read this at breakfast Prasadam time .......


SB4.7.46 purport -A significant word used in this verse is trayī-gātra, which means that the transcendental form of the Lord is the Vedas. Anyone who engages in the worship of the Deity, or the form of the Lord in the temple, is understood to be studying all the Vedas twenty-four hours a day. Simply by decorating the Deities of the Lord, Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa, in the temple, one very minutely studies the injunctions of the Vedas.Even a neophyte devotee who simply engages in the worship of the Deity is understood to be in direct touch with the purport of Vedic knowledge. As confirmed in Bhagavad-gītā (15.15), vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ: the purport of the Vedas is to understand Him, Kṛṣṇa. One who worships and serves Kṛṣṇa directly has understood the truths of the Vedas.   Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/4/7/46

Dec 23 1970 Surat conversations

Devotee (3): In regard to worshiping arcā-vigraha form, you have explained that if one receives a mantra from a spiritual master who is not bona fide, that mantra has no effect. So I would like to ask if one is worshiping a Deity and his spiritual master is not bona fide, so that Deity cannot be considered the Supreme Lord?

Prabhupāda: Well, first of all, thing is if the spiritual master is not bona fide, how his mantra can be bona fide? Your statement is contradictory. If you say the spiritual master is not bona fide, then how his mantra becomes bona fide? If he is bona fide, then his mantra is bona fide.

Devotee (3): Then why is he giving instruction to worship the Deity? If the spiritual master is not bona fide, then is the Deity also not bona fide?

Prabhupāda: I do not follow. What does he say?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: His idea is that if one receives a mantra from a spiritual master, if the spiritual master is not bona fide...

Prabhupāda: Then there is no question of mantra. There is no question of worshiping Deity. These are all bogus things. If you are not... Just like here is a young medical man. If he has not received instruction from a bona fide medical college, so what is the value of his medical, being... That is... What is called? What is the technical name?

Devotee (4): Quack.

Prabhupāda: Quack! (laughter) (pronounces like "quark")

Devotees: Quack.

Prabhupāda: A quack is not a medical man, however he may show all red bottles, white bottles. 


Now you are asking if Lord Jagannatha carries flute? Why this nonsense question? You are asking me so many concoctions and manufactured nonsense. Don't bother my head in this way any more. From now on unless I order you do something change or in addition, go on with the usual standard way. You manufacture ideas and then I have to waste my time. I have given you everything already, there is no need for you to add anything or change anything. Why you are asking these things? Who has given you such freedom? <jd:"lt-deity worship-<a="" href="/d/pujari" class="d" style="">Pujari Standards 14">Pujari should operate entirely under the supervision of temple president and GBC, not independently. The greatest danger to our movement will come when we manufacture and create our own process for worshiping the deities. So don't ask any more new questions, whatever is going on, follow it just to the exact standard as I have given you, that's all.  : https://prabhupadabooks.com/letters/bombay/january/04/1973/dhruvananda

Some Conclusions-- There are three items above. First one Srila Prabhupada tells us how beneficial is daily deity worship. Second thing he tells us that if we worship some form of the Lord BUT our guru/spiritual master is NOT bonafide, then there is NO question of us doing any actual bona fide deity worship, no matter how much we will concoct or speculate what we may be doing is correct. The last item, he tells us that this concocting and speculating about the bona fide process of how to worship the Supreme Lord is the GREATEST danger to the Hare Krsna Movement.

Some will accept this, some will never accept it. But here is what Srila Prabhupada says about those who remain faithful to him- and those on the mental platform.....

Prabhupāda: Unless one is prepared that "I am accepting somebody as my spiritual master. I must accept whatever he says," if there is any doubt, that "I cannot accept his words verbatim," then one should not accept him as spiritual master. That is hypocrisy. One must be first of all convinced.


Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur from Jaiva Dharma....

Once a person begins to worship the Deity of the  Lord with a trace of bhakti it is to be understood that he has sown the seed  of his own food fortune and that he is free from corrupt  ideologies.

(Note-So if this same person begins the worship of the Deity of the Lord but is infected with corrupt ideologies, then the seed of bhakti, according to the Thakur, has not even begun-or as Srila Prabhupada says-there is no deity worship, because there is no proper guru or mantra, and this situation which we now see in iskcon is causing the greatest danger to the Hare Krsna Movement  )

Sri Sankirtana Sila/Padmamabha Prabhu

Compiled by Damaghosa das

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